Comments for RCG WarBlog http://www.rosecoloredglasses.org/rcg_warblog The Political & Social War Opinion Blog That Scrutinizes Our Strategies For Taking Back Our Democracy Sun, 05 Sep 2010 05:28:10 +0000 http://wordpress.org/?v=2.2 Comment on Original DOD Documents Proving Over 10 Thousand American Soldiers Dead as of July 2005 by YOPF http://www.rosecoloredglasses.org/rcg_warblog/?p=148#comment-128 YOPF Thu, 11 Jan 2007 06:28:47 +0000 http://www.rosecoloredglasses.org/rcg_warblog/?p=148#comment-128 SFCB, you are a proven liar; and IMHO, a pathological one at that, so I want you and any readers that might stumble across here to know why I allowed your above comment. Unlike you, I have RESPECT for the TRUTH and I do realize that even pathological liars sometimes tell it. And because I do not have the time right now to verify what you said, I will let your comment stand. Although, judging on your past history, (concerning anything to do with the govt/bush/neocons/etc.) I cannot think of even one occasion in which you told the complete truth. Readers keep that in mind. One more thing, SFCB. Your recent criticism of my weblog (in another recent post that you submitted which I denied because it was filled to the brim with lies and omissions) was correct. This is a lousy weblog. A blog which almost no one visits and I cannot blame them. About the only thing I do here is to post the shouts on shoutwire.com that I make and other shouts that I thought deserved to be shouted. And I don't know if you are aware of this or not, but adding a shout to your blog can be automated so it can be done in just a couple quick clicks. I also do nothing to promote this blog. This blog is here for my archival purposes. And that's good enough for me. {You don't count.} And... like I have told you before, if you don't like it, stay the fuck off of it. Now how hard is that? SFCB, you are a proven liar; and IMHO, a pathological one at that, so I want you and any readers that might stumble across here to know why I allowed your above comment.

Unlike you, I have RESPECT for the TRUTH and I do realize that even pathological liars sometimes tell it. And because I do not have the time right now to verify what you said, I will let your comment stand. Although, judging on your past history, (concerning anything to do with the govt/bush/neocons/etc.) I cannot think of even one occasion in which you told the complete truth. Readers keep that in mind.

One more thing, SFCB. Your recent criticism of my weblog (in another recent post that you submitted which I denied because it was filled to the brim with lies and omissions) was correct. This is a lousy weblog. A blog which almost no one visits and I cannot blame them. About the only thing I do here is to post the shouts on shoutwire.com that I make and other shouts that I thought deserved to be shouted. And I don’t know if you are aware of this or not, but adding a shout to your blog can be automated so it can be done in just a couple quick clicks. I also do nothing to promote this blog. This blog is here for my archival purposes. And that’s good enough for me. {You don’t count.}

And… like I have told you before, if you don’t like it, stay the fuck off of it. Now how hard is that?

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Comment on Original DOD Documents Proving Over 10 Thousand American Soldiers Dead as of July 2005 by SFCB http://www.rosecoloredglasses.org/rcg_warblog/?p=148#comment-127 SFCB Thu, 11 Jan 2007 04:12:04 +0000 http://www.rosecoloredglasses.org/rcg_warblog/?p=148#comment-127 I originally posted this over on SW, but since it looks like this story might disappear off of Shoutwire for a lack of shouts I figured I'd keep it here as well. This is going to be a long post. Well, I solved the problem. I wrote Mr. Harring and asked for a copy of his research. I received it and took a look at it. I'll admit that I hoped it would be a by-name list of the missing wounded. That would make it easy. Would just need to cross reference the names on that list with the names given by the Pentagon and the Army locator. If a name was given on the list from Mr. Harring, but not by the Pentagon, and it wasn't on the locator that would imply they're no longer in the service and possibly dead. A search for their obiturary would reveal the rest. Unfortunatly Mr. Harring's research isn't that clear-up. Mr. Harring alledges that there were 10,000 additional, unreported combat deaths from May03-Jun05. He obtains this number based on the Pentagon's claim that 15,000 wounded sermembers were evacuated from Iraq to Germany or the US. The Pentagon lists only 59 of these 15,000 as dying in transit or outside of Iraq. These 59 are on the Iraq combat death lists. From Mr. Harring's research: "Given that over 15,000 seriously wounded were, by the Pentagon’s own postings, flown out of Iraq because of the seriousness of their wounds, that only 59 of these seriously injured died from March, 2003 through June, 2005, is completely unbelievable." He's made two false assumptions in this statement which is at the core of his claim that there is an underreporting of 8,000+ deaths from the period of May03-Jun05. The first one is that the 15,000 wounded who were evaced out of Iraq were "seriously" wounded. I'm not going to slander these men and women with whom I serve by insinuating that their injuries are not serious. However Mr. Harring is using the classification of "serious" to imply "likely fatal" which is simply not the case. Someone who suffers a fractured leg while in Iraq will likely be evaced from Iraq. That doesn't mean their injury was potentially fatal. Mr. Harring's second assumption is that the medical treatment those who did suffer serious, potentially fatal injures received isn't sufficient enough to sustain them. Combat medicine has progressed farther and faster than its civilian counterpart. In Korea a wounded serviceman who lived long enough to receive medical care had a survival rate of 90% (this fact is made famous by the TV show M*A*S*H*). If a medic could reach a combat wounded serviceman in Vietnam before they died their survival rate was over 90%. This has continually progressed to where we are today. If the attack isn't instantly fatal their odds of surving are above 95%. The planes who evacuate our wounded in Iraq are better equipped than many metropolitan hospitals. These men and women are receiving the best medical care possible and because of the advancing technology, such as bandages that contain a coagulant available to every soldier in the field, they are surviving wounds that would have been untreatable 10 or 20 years ago. Mr. Harring has based his claim on the assumption that the Pentagon is not reporting every death and is, instead, categorizing them elsewhere. That is not the case. Mr. Harring has decided that, of the 15,000 wounded evacuated from Iraq, 8,000 of them died and the Pentagon sweeped them under the rug somehow. Unless Mr. Harring actually has names, dates, or other information about these 8,000 he's grossly wrong. However, let's assume that he is right and that there are 8,000 unreported combat deaths. That would represent a force two brigades. There would also be an additional 24,000 family member (parents, spouses, children, etc) who have lost a loved one in combat. Now, is it possible that these 24,000 people have agreed to keep the details of their son's and daughter's deaths silent? None of them are outraged that the Pentagon effectivly wiped their loss, and thus the service for which they died, from the record? Are these 24,000 grieving family members participating in the cover-up? Is it possible that the ONLY person who has uncovered this travesty is a computer analyst writing for a publisher of white supremascist literature? Or is it likely that the original writing is mistaken/misintrepreting data/lying? I originally posted this over on SW, but since it looks like this story might disappear off of Shoutwire for a lack of shouts I figured I’d keep it here as well.

This is going to be a long post.

Well, I solved the problem.

I wrote Mr. Harring and asked for a copy of his research. I received it and took a look at it. I’ll admit that I hoped it would be a by-name list of the missing wounded. That would make it easy. Would just need to cross reference the names on that list with the names given by the Pentagon and the Army locator. If a name was given on the list from Mr. Harring, but not by the Pentagon, and it wasn’t on the locator that would imply they’re no longer in the service and possibly dead. A search for their obiturary would reveal the rest.

Unfortunatly Mr. Harring’s research isn’t that clear-up.

Mr. Harring alledges that there were 10,000 additional, unreported combat deaths from May03-Jun05. He obtains this number based on the Pentagon’s claim that 15,000 wounded sermembers were evacuated from Iraq to Germany or the US. The Pentagon lists only 59 of these 15,000 as dying in transit or outside of Iraq. These 59 are on the Iraq combat death lists.

From Mr. Harring’s research:

“Given that over 15,000 seriously wounded were, by the Pentagon’s own postings, flown out of Iraq because of the seriousness of their wounds, that only 59 of these seriously injured died from March, 2003 through June, 2005, is completely unbelievable.”

He’s made two false assumptions in this statement which is at the core of his claim that there is an underreporting of 8,000+ deaths from the period of May03-Jun05.

The first one is that the 15,000 wounded who were evaced out of Iraq were “seriously” wounded. I’m not going to slander these men and women with whom I serve by insinuating that their injuries are not serious. However Mr. Harring is using the classification of “serious” to imply “likely fatal” which is simply not the case. Someone who suffers a fractured leg while in Iraq will likely be evaced from Iraq. That doesn’t mean their injury was potentially fatal.

Mr. Harring’s second assumption is that the medical treatment those who did suffer serious, potentially fatal injures received isn’t sufficient enough to sustain them. Combat medicine has progressed farther and faster than its civilian counterpart. In Korea a wounded serviceman who lived long enough to receive medical care had a survival rate of 90% (this fact is made famous by the TV show M*A*S*H*). If a medic could reach a combat wounded serviceman in Vietnam before they died their survival rate was over 90%. This has continually progressed to where we are today.

If the attack isn’t instantly fatal their odds of surving are above 95%. The planes who evacuate our wounded in Iraq are better equipped than many metropolitan hospitals. These men and women are receiving the best medical care possible and because of the advancing technology, such as bandages that contain a coagulant available to every soldier in the field, they are surviving wounds that would have been untreatable 10 or 20 years ago.

Mr. Harring has based his claim on the assumption that the Pentagon is not reporting every death and is, instead, categorizing them elsewhere. That is not the case. Mr. Harring has decided that, of the 15,000 wounded evacuated from Iraq, 8,000 of them died and the Pentagon sweeped them under the rug somehow.

Unless Mr. Harring actually has names, dates, or other information about these 8,000 he’s grossly wrong.

However, let’s assume that he is right and that there are 8,000 unreported combat deaths. That would represent a force two brigades. There would also be an additional 24,000 family member (parents, spouses, children, etc) who have lost a loved one in combat. Now, is it possible that these 24,000 people have agreed to keep the details of their son’s and daughter’s deaths silent? None of them are outraged that the Pentagon effectivly wiped their loss, and thus the service for which they died, from the record? Are these 24,000 grieving family members participating in the cover-up? Is it possible that the ONLY person who has uncovered this travesty is a computer analyst writing for a publisher of white supremascist literature?

Or is it likely that the original writing is mistaken/misintrepreting data/lying?

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Comment on Fifty Senate Democrats Plan 11 Different Committee Hearings Just on Iraq. by YOPF http://www.rosecoloredglasses.org/rcg_warblog/?p=144#comment-124 YOPF Tue, 09 Jan 2007 02:35:52 +0000 http://www.rosecoloredglasses.org/rcg_warblog/?p=144#comment-124 So let's sum up, SFCB. 1. For some years, you bought into a huge pack of lies and fallacies for the rationale for the war. Calling other people liars, and fools, and insinuating that they were traitors too for their not buying the Lies. 2. Just recently, on shoutwire.com, you told me that there were not going to be congressional investigations because the mass-media had not reported it and you said that I was crazy/mentally ill for believing that there would be investigations. 3. Now you come in here and instead of admitting that I was right and apologizing (which you should do profusely, and would, if you were any kind of a real man), you now tell me that what I have been saying is "intellectually empty" and that you think that investigations should put all my concerns to rest. So after all this, the lesson that you have learned is that I am the one who is YOUR intellectual inferior. LOL, You know what? Time has PROVEN that I am exceedingly smarter and wiser (than you) AND now you have PROVEN that I am also you superior in all matters of Ethics and Honor. SFCB, you are a disgusting farce of a soldier and a human being AND you aren't fit to lick my boots. And why do you keep coming around here. Are you a masochist as well? So let’s sum up, SFCB.

1. For some years, you bought into a huge pack of lies and fallacies for the rationale for the war. Calling other people liars, and fools, and insinuating that they were traitors too for their not buying the Lies.

2. Just recently, on shoutwire.com, you told me that there were not going to be congressional investigations because the mass-media had not reported it and you said that I was crazy/mentally ill for believing that there would be investigations.

3. Now you come in here and instead of admitting that I was right and apologizing (which you should do profusely, and would, if you were any kind of a real man), you now tell me that what I have been saying is “intellectually empty” and that you think that investigations should put all my concerns to rest.

So after all this, the lesson that you have learned is that I am the one who is YOUR intellectual inferior. LOL, You know what? Time has PROVEN that I am exceedingly smarter and wiser (than you) AND now you have PROVEN that I am also you superior in all matters of Ethics and Honor. SFCB, you are a disgusting farce of a soldier and a human being AND you aren’t fit to lick my boots.

And why do you keep coming around here. Are you a masochist as well?

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Comment on Fifty Senate Democrats Plan 11 Different Committee Hearings Just on Iraq. by SFCB http://www.rosecoloredglasses.org/rcg_warblog/?p=144#comment-123 SFCB Mon, 08 Jan 2007 20:03:55 +0000 http://www.rosecoloredglasses.org/rcg_warblog/?p=144#comment-123 Awesome. I can't wait until the various committees convene and determine that the administration acted without malice and that they responded reasonably based on the intelligence available. Maybe these investigations will finally put to rest some of the more tired, intellectually empty canards of the various anti-war movements. But I doubt it. Awesome. I can’t wait until the various committees convene and determine that the administration acted without malice and that they responded reasonably based on the intelligence available. Maybe these investigations will finally put to rest some of the more tired, intellectually empty canards of the various anti-war movements.

But I doubt it.

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Comment on Red State Update 34: North Korea’s Nuke Test by Gonnetorioz45 http://www.rosecoloredglasses.org/rcg_warblog/?p=33#comment-108 Gonnetorioz45 Sun, 24 Dec 2006 17:37:27 +0000 http://www.rosecoloredglasses.org/rcg_warblog/?p=33#comment-108 <strong>hello, nice day...</strong> ... hello, nice day…

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Comment on Fox Guest Says “treasonous” People Should be Rounded up And Put in A Detention Center by YOPF http://www.rosecoloredglasses.org/rcg_warblog/?p=138#comment-99 YOPF Fri, 22 Dec 2006 15:30:13 +0000 http://www.rosecoloredglasses.org/rcg_warblog/?p=138#comment-99 Right now (in this thread), you are lying by omission. And I have no idea what the hell you think you may be accomplishing, but this is my site and your bullshit will not be tolerated here - as it would not be tolerated if you dared to try to talk this crap to my face. Now you have proven yourself a LIAR (Time and Time Again). You Can Cry About It all you want, but that won't change the FACT that you are a LIAR. Now since you refuse to answer and address my questions AND since you do nothing but tell lies in response. Guess what? You're fucking done here. There will be no more commentary from you. Right now (in this thread), you are lying by omission. And I have no idea what the hell you think you may be accomplishing, but this is my site and your bullshit will not be tolerated here - as it would not be tolerated if you dared to try to talk this crap to my face. Now you have proven yourself a LIAR (Time and Time Again). You Can Cry About It all you want, but that won’t change the FACT that you are a LIAR. Now since you refuse to answer and address my questions AND since you do nothing but tell lies in response. Guess what? You’re fucking done here. There will be no more commentary from you.

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Comment on Fox Guest Says “treasonous” People Should be Rounded up And Put in A Detention Center by SFCB http://www.rosecoloredglasses.org/rcg_warblog/?p=138#comment-98 SFCB Fri, 22 Dec 2006 13:46:08 +0000 http://www.rosecoloredglasses.org/rcg_warblog/?p=138#comment-98 Again with the "liar liar pants on fire" tactic. Do you not think that insurgents have used civilians as human shields? Or that they have faked surrender? Or used restricted sites? Or that these are all war crimes? As far as I know these are provable facts. If I'm wrong I'd appreciate seeing the evidence I'm wrong. Again with the “liar liar pants on fire” tactic. Do you not think that insurgents have used civilians as human shields? Or that they have faked surrender? Or used restricted sites? Or that these are all war crimes?

As far as I know these are provable facts. If I’m wrong I’d appreciate seeing the evidence I’m wrong.

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Comment on Fox Guest Says “treasonous” People Should be Rounded up And Put in A Detention Center by YOPF http://www.rosecoloredglasses.org/rcg_warblog/?p=138#comment-96 YOPF Thu, 21 Dec 2006 22:53:31 +0000 http://www.rosecoloredglasses.org/rcg_warblog/?p=138#comment-96 You know what? You just need to shut the fuck up - you fucking lying idiot. You disgust me. Now begone from my sight and my site. You know what? You just need to shut the fuck up - you fucking lying idiot. You disgust me. Now begone from my sight and my site.

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Comment on Fox Guest Says “treasonous” People Should be Rounded up And Put in A Detention Center by SFCB http://www.rosecoloredglasses.org/rcg_warblog/?p=138#comment-94 SFCB Thu, 21 Dec 2006 18:20:18 +0000 http://www.rosecoloredglasses.org/rcg_warblog/?p=138#comment-94 "I think that all WAR criminals should be charged, given a fair trial..." Then you should be glad the US and her allies are in Iraq capturing and killing terrorists and insurgents who use illegal and immoral tactics, including using civilians as human shields, faking surrender, and conducting military operations from restricted sites like religious buildings and hospitals. Those are all serious war crimes that endanger the lives of innocent civilians. “I think that all WAR criminals should be charged, given a fair trial…”

Then you should be glad the US and her allies are in Iraq capturing and killing terrorists and insurgents who use illegal and immoral tactics, including using civilians as human shields, faking surrender, and conducting military operations from restricted sites like religious buildings and hospitals. Those are all serious war crimes that endanger the lives of innocent civilians.

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Comment on Fox Guest Says “treasonous” People Should be Rounded up And Put in A Detention Center by YOPF http://www.rosecoloredglasses.org/rcg_warblog/?p=138#comment-82 YOPF Thu, 21 Dec 2006 04:21:31 +0000 http://www.rosecoloredglasses.org/rcg_warblog/?p=138#comment-82 No, that is not the same as what I said. But before I defend myself, let me set you straight on something else - whether you know it or not, when people tell lies that lead others to commit violent crimes, those liars can be (and historically have been) held accountable under numerous laws - such as "inciting people to riot". Why the hell do you think that these laws do not apply to you? Furthermore, if you campaign, vote for, and/or finance, known WAR criminals so that they can do more of the same - then you are an accomplice. What the hell makes you think you are not responsible in any way for what the people YOU empowered do? O'kay, here ya go. Here is your answer. Try to follow the important/vital differences: I think that all WAR criminals should be charged, given a fair trial, found guilty, and then given just punishment. This is a far cry from the barbaric, inhuman, and ridiculously unfair/rigged Guantanamo type treatment that your faux news propaganda idols propose. And notice that I said that this is what should happen to WAR criminals. So SFCB, got any innocent blood on your hands? Are you a war criminal? No, that is not the same as what I said. But before I defend myself, let me set you straight on something else - whether you know it or not, when people tell lies that lead others to commit violent crimes, those liars can be (and historically have been) held accountable under numerous laws - such as “inciting people to riot”. Why the hell do you think that these laws do not apply to you?

Furthermore, if you campaign, vote for, and/or finance, known WAR criminals so that they can do more of the same - then you are an accomplice. What the hell makes you think you are not responsible in any way for what the people YOU empowered do?

O’kay, here ya go. Here is your answer. Try to follow the important/vital differences: I think that all WAR criminals should be charged, given a fair trial, found guilty, and then given just punishment. This is a far cry from the barbaric, inhuman, and ridiculously unfair/rigged Guantanamo type treatment that your faux news propaganda idols propose. And notice that I said that this is what should happen to WAR criminals. So SFCB, got any innocent blood on your hands? Are you a war criminal?

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Comment on Fox Guest Says “treasonous” People Should be Rounded up And Put in A Detention Center by SFCB http://www.rosecoloredglasses.org/rcg_warblog/?p=138#comment-80 SFCB Thu, 21 Dec 2006 01:36:16 +0000 http://www.rosecoloredglasses.org/rcg_warblog/?p=138#comment-80 So, are you endorsing this course of action RCG? You've suggested a couple times that people should be rounded up and held because of what they've said. Hell, you've even suggested they should be tried, found guilty, and executed. Personally I found Gallagher's comments to be stupid and was glad that FOX is balanced enough to have an opposing viewpoint like Rob Thompson there to dispute him. Good on FOX for having two sides of a debate. So, are you endorsing this course of action RCG? You’ve suggested a couple times that people should be rounded up and held because of what they’ve said. Hell, you’ve even suggested they should be tried, found guilty, and executed.

Personally I found Gallagher’s comments to be stupid and was glad that FOX is balanced enough to have an opposing viewpoint like Rob Thompson there to dispute him. Good on FOX for having two sides of a debate.

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Comment on Are George w. Bush Lovers Certifiably Insane? by YOPF http://www.rosecoloredglasses.org/rcg_warblog/?p=124#comment-39 YOPF Mon, 04 Dec 2006 18:36:00 +0000 http://www.rosecoloredglasses.org/rcg_warblog/?p=124#comment-39 I got no problem with dissent, it's willing accomplices to theft, rape, torture, and mass-murder that I have a problem with. It's baby killers that I have a problem with. And not only that but you spread disinformation, deception, and lies to try and convince others to support such atrocities. It's sad too that you are getting away with this (for now). It wasn't long ago that you would have been charged with numerous felonies for what you are doing. If I was in authority, I would charge you with the previously stated horrific crimes (and more) and see to it that you received the death penalty. No, I take that back; If I was in authority, I would extradite you to Iraq, to the people whom you have done the most grave harm, and I would let them decide on your just punishment. Anyhoo, last time I checked, I paid for this site. If you want to argue your atrocious "dissent", go somewhere else or buy your own site - for accomplices to theft, rape, torture, and mass-murder, are not welcome here. I got no problem with dissent, it’s willing accomplices to theft, rape, torture, and mass-murder that I have a problem with. It’s baby killers that I have a problem with. And not only that but you spread disinformation, deception, and lies to try and convince others to support such atrocities. It’s sad too that you are getting away with this (for now). It wasn’t long ago that you would have been charged with numerous felonies for what you are doing. If I was in authority, I would charge you with the previously stated horrific crimes (and more) and see to it that you received the death penalty. No, I take that back; If I was in authority, I would extradite you to Iraq, to the people whom you have done the most grave harm, and I would let them decide on your just punishment.

Anyhoo, last time I checked, I paid for this site. If you want to argue your atrocious “dissent”, go somewhere else or buy your own site - for accomplices to theft, rape, torture, and mass-murder, are not welcome here.

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Comment on Are George w. Bush Lovers Certifiably Insane? by SFCB http://www.rosecoloredglasses.org/rcg_warblog/?p=124#comment-36 SFCB Sun, 03 Dec 2006 17:36:44 +0000 http://www.rosecoloredglasses.org/rcg_warblog/?p=124#comment-36 So, dissent is something you really are incapable of dealing with? Does it really make your world a better, richer place to surround yourself with, and expose your mind to, only those who agree with you? So, dissent is something you really are incapable of dealing with? Does it really make your world a better, richer place to surround yourself with, and expose your mind to, only those who agree with you?

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Comment on Are George w. Bush Lovers Certifiably Insane? by YOPF http://www.rosecoloredglasses.org/rcg_warblog/?p=124#comment-34 YOPF Sat, 02 Dec 2006 23:21:33 +0000 http://www.rosecoloredglasses.org/rcg_warblog/?p=124#comment-34 Yes, they are not all insane, but clearly, a much larger percentage of them are - when compared to non-bush supporters. Thanks for acknowledging that though - being part of that group - it couldn't have been easy for you to admit. And hey, I thought I previously told you to bugger off? Yes, they are not all insane, but clearly, a much larger percentage of them are - when compared to non-bush supporters. Thanks for acknowledging that though - being part of that group - it couldn’t have been easy for you to admit.

And hey, I thought I previously told you to bugger off?

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Comment on Are George w. Bush Lovers Certifiably Insane? by SFCB http://www.rosecoloredglasses.org/rcg_warblog/?p=124#comment-33 SFCB Sat, 02 Dec 2006 20:23:42 +0000 http://www.rosecoloredglasses.org/rcg_warblog/?p=124#comment-33 Seems the article itself answers your question RCG. You ask: "Are George w. Bush Lovers Certifiably Insane?". "But before you go thinking all your conservative friends are psychotic, listen to Lohse’s explanation. “'Our study shows that psychotic patients prefer an authoritative leader,” Lohse says. “If your world is very mixed up, there’s something very comforting about someone telling you, ‘This is how it’s going to be.’'” Seems the article itself answers your question RCG. You ask: “Are George w. Bush Lovers Certifiably Insane?”.

“But before you go thinking all your conservative friends are psychotic, listen to Lohse’s explanation.

“’Our study shows that psychotic patients prefer an authoritative leader,” Lohse says. “If your world is very mixed up, there’s something very comforting about someone telling you, ‘This is how it’s going to be.’’”

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Comment on Taser FAQ: The Truth About Tasers by RCG http://www.rosecoloredglasses.org/rcg_warblog/?p=116#comment-17 RCG Tue, 21 Nov 2006 04:56:23 +0000 http://www.rosecoloredglasses.org/rcg_warblog/?p=116#comment-17 That's a loaded question and typical of lowly people who are trying to deceive and manipulate others. I answer it only because from my discussions with you on shoutwire.com, I am aware that you are a somewhat well-meaning but ignorant, illogical, and insensitive fool. I would rather that the police use their taser only when necessary; when other non-violent (1st. preference) or less violent (2nd. preference) choices are not available, and then only when and as often as necessary. And certainly not on a terrified and handcuffed non-violent teenager who is on the ground screaming and offering up no physical resistance. Especially so when the victim is accused of the "high crime" of merely using the library without a card, and outnumbered by 5 (large and very possibly roided up) police to one teen. Which is an accurate description of the incident that brought you here to MY blog. {The same goes for the use of the gun.} As for YOUR tasering experience. 1. Not everyone responds the same to drugs in general, to alcohol, (for somewhat analogous examples) or to a tasering. This Reality is well known in scientific studies of both medicine and "tasering". Speaking of science, you might try studying that sometime. In the meantime, just ask any physician and he will tell you that this is the same regarding common medications and electrical tasering. Furthermore, it takes an incredibly shallow and self-absorbed person to even think that their experience would surely apply to everyone else. You lack the most basic powers of logic. 2. Not every brand and model of taser applies the same amount of voltage nor the same amount of amperage. The latter being more important. Whereas a type of shock of the same voltage, but low amperage, may only stun; a shocking of the same voltage but higher amperage can injure or kill. Now, until you have been stunned by every model of taser available, then you can only speak from ignorance regarding the experience of others. More specifically, regarding that poor defenseless kid who was needlessly and repeatedly shocked/tortured by the police: Until you have been stunned by the exact model of taser used, for the identical length of time, for the same amount of consecutive shocks, and with the same amount of recovery time allowed in between said shocks, then you can only speak from ignorance regarding the experience of that poor kid. Plus the other applicable FACTS that I stated in point number one. Heck, I could also add that you must have the same physical/medical condition as him; you must be as terrified as he was, you must be on the same medications, AND the taser prongs must attach to the same part of your body. I could add more, but I will stop there. Anyoo, in other words, you must be under the same conditions. Don't believe me? Just ask any scientist. {Prayer: Dear lord, please make these fools (at the very least) learn the basic principles of sixth grade science before letting them graduate high school or to obtain positions of power of influence. Please. In the name of Jesus, Amen.} Now SFCB, please begone from my web site. Although, I do feel pity for you, you still disgust me, and shame me as an American. There is so much unnecessary suffering in the U.S.A. and in the world - and it is largely due to blind, heartless, uneducated, ignorant, and gleefully authoritarian butt fellating/worshiping fools like you. So please, respect my wishes (i.e the wishes of the owner of this site) and take a hike. That’s a loaded question and typical of lowly people who are trying to deceive and manipulate others. I answer it only because from my discussions with you on shoutwire.com, I am aware that you are a somewhat well-meaning but ignorant, illogical, and insensitive fool.

I would rather that the police use their taser only when necessary; when other non-violent (1st. preference) or less violent (2nd. preference) choices are not available, and then only when and as often as necessary. And certainly not on a terrified and handcuffed non-violent teenager who is on the ground screaming and offering up no physical resistance. Especially so when the victim is accused of the “high crime” of merely using the library without a card, and outnumbered by 5 (large and very possibly roided up) police to one teen. Which is an accurate description of the incident that brought you here to MY blog. {The same goes for the use of the gun.}

As for YOUR tasering experience.

1. Not everyone responds the same to drugs in general, to alcohol, (for somewhat analogous examples) or to a tasering. This Reality is well known in scientific studies of both medicine and “tasering”. Speaking of science, you might try studying that sometime. In the meantime, just ask any physician and he will tell you that this is the same regarding common medications and electrical tasering. Furthermore, it takes an incredibly shallow and self-absorbed person to even think that their experience would surely apply to everyone else. You lack the most basic powers of logic.

2. Not every brand and model of taser applies the same amount of voltage nor the same amount of amperage. The latter being more important. Whereas a type of shock of the same voltage, but low amperage, may only stun; a shocking of the same voltage but higher amperage can injure or kill. Now, until you have been stunned by every model of taser available, then you can only speak from ignorance regarding the experience of others. More specifically, regarding that poor defenseless kid who was needlessly and repeatedly shocked/tortured by the police: Until you have been stunned by the exact model of taser used, for the identical length of time, for the same amount of consecutive shocks, and with the same amount of recovery time allowed in between said shocks, then you can only speak from ignorance regarding the experience of that poor kid. Plus the other applicable FACTS that I stated in point number one. Heck, I could also add that you must have the same physical/medical condition as him; you must be as terrified as he was, you must be on the same medications, AND the taser prongs must attach to the same part of your body. I could add more, but I will stop there. Anyoo, in other words, you must be under the same conditions. Don’t believe me? Just ask any scientist. {Prayer: Dear lord, please make these fools (at the very least) learn the basic principles of sixth grade science before letting them graduate high school or to obtain positions of power of influence. Please. In the name of Jesus, Amen.}

Now SFCB, please begone from my web site. Although, I do feel pity for you, you still disgust me, and shame me as an American. There is so much unnecessary suffering in the U.S.A. and in the world - and it is largely due to blind, heartless, uneducated, ignorant, and gleefully authoritarian butt fellating/worshiping fools like you. So please, respect my wishes (i.e the wishes of the owner of this site) and take a hike.

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Comment on Taser FAQ: The Truth About Tasers by SFCB http://www.rosecoloredglasses.org/rcg_warblog/?p=116#comment-15 SFCB Mon, 20 Nov 2006 23:08:21 +0000 http://www.rosecoloredglasses.org/rcg_warblog/?p=116#comment-15 I've been tasered a couple times as part of training. It sucks, but it is in no way entirely debilitating, nor did it render me incapable of functioning once the current was taken away. What would you prefer the police use? Their gun? I’ve been tasered a couple times as part of training. It sucks, but it is in no way entirely debilitating, nor did it render me incapable of functioning once the current was taken away.

What would you prefer the police use? Their gun?

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Comment on Fox News Labels Foley a Democrat by YOPF http://www.rosecoloredglasses.org/rcg_warblog/?p=18#comment-4 YOPF Fri, 06 Oct 2006 02:37:29 +0000 http://www.rosecoloredglasses.org/rcg_warblog/?p=18#comment-4 LOL, haha Gotcha! That video is not supposed to have sound. At least, that's what I believe to be the case. I've checked numerous sites and various souces and none of them have sound. I guess, we are supposed to just look at the pic. I also checked C & L and all they have is a static picture. I was too lazy to set-that up. hehe Guess, i should warn people though. My bad, sorry. I'll fix it now. tHx for commenting. LOL, haha Gotcha! That video is not supposed to have sound. At least, that’s what I believe to be the case. I’ve checked numerous sites and various souces and none of them have sound. I guess, we are supposed to just look at the pic. I also checked C & L and all they have is a static picture. I was too lazy to set-that up. hehe Guess, i should warn people though. My bad, sorry. I’ll fix it now. tHx for commenting.

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Comment on Fox News Labels Foley a Democrat by FireFox http://www.rosecoloredglasses.org/rcg_warblog/?p=18#comment-3 FireFox Fri, 06 Oct 2006 02:11:12 +0000 http://www.rosecoloredglasses.org/rcg_warblog/?p=18#comment-3 That video no worky, Amato has it over at C&L That video no worky, Amato has it over at C&L

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Comment on Why do Atheists care about Religion? by FireFox http://www.rosecoloredglasses.org/rcg_warblog/?p=14#comment-2 FireFox Wed, 04 Oct 2006 22:21:26 +0000 http://www.rosecoloredglasses.org/rcg_warblog/?p=14#comment-2 That pretty much sums up the major points. I often wonder how much more advanced we as humans would be if it weren't for religion. That pretty much sums up the major points. I often wonder how much more advanced we as humans would be if it weren’t for religion.

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